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Using vintage email clients

Posted: Sun 18 Aug, 2019 2:10 pm
by Neelix
Hi,

I would connect outlook express 4 under Windows 95 and WFW 3.11 to my old hotmail account. I get the error 0x800CCC1A.

I tried it with my gmx and gmail accounts, but nothing to do.

Could someone help me find a way to synchronize my mails with vintage email clients, please ?

Re: Using vintage email clients

Posted: Sun 18 Aug, 2019 4:27 pm
by UPerschke
Those will likely never get a connection nowadays due to lack of TLSv1.2 support.
TLSv.1.0, SSLv3.0 and older are outdated and usually no longer available.

Most providers have also removed abilities for unencrypted connections alltogether.

You can try to change your POP3/IMAP/SMTP settings to SSL/TLS, but if that doesn't help your client is a deadend, at least with a direct connection.
https://www.janaserver.de/start.php?lang=en could be a way out.

Edit1: Typo fixed.
Edit2: Added Jana as suggestion.

Re: Using vintage email clients

Posted: Mon 19 Aug, 2019 6:44 am
by Neelix
Thank you for the response. I tried Jana on Windows 98, it doesn't work. The JanaServer needs at least Windows 2000.

Re: Using vintage email clients

Posted: Mon 19 Aug, 2019 7:54 pm
by UPerschke
Indeed. You'll never solve this problem within Win9x, no matter how you turn it.
You need some intermediate system with TLSv1.2 which acts as an IMAP or SMTP/POP3 proxy/relay and/or cache, regardless if it's WinXP, *nix or something else.

Data flow would roughly look like this: E-mail provider <---IMAP or SMTP/POP3 w. TLSv1.2--->Intermediate system<---Unencrypted IMAP or SMTP/POP3--->Win9x in PCem.

No solution for this is trivial I'm sure. Aside Jana I can think of other setups: *nix and Postmail/Sendfix, maybe Nextcloud, maybe SOGo, (or other, similar Groupware), WinGate Standard (only POP3 Proxy, and only one target server).

I think you get the idea, but afaik this hasn't been done for Win9x so it's more or less new territory even for advanced users and pros.

Re: Using vintage email clients

Posted: Mon 19 Aug, 2019 10:35 pm
by abk4523
You can download Windows 2000 from Winworldpc.com if it helps. Do you have to have Win9x or are you challenging yourself?