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Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 5:08 pm
by teppic
I've not had much luck configuring Windows 3.11 with anything above 800x600 and 256 colours. I've tried various drivers, but with a fair few graphics cards emulated that should support higher resolutions and colours and lots of different drivers for each card, I'm not sure what's best. Can anyone suggest something, e.g. for 1024x768 at 16m colours?

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 6:28 pm
by Battler
Phoenix S3 Trio64 with 4 MB VRAM can do 1024x768 at true color just fine.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 7:43 pm
by teppic
Battler wrote:Phoenix S3 Trio64 with 4 MB VRAM can do 1024x768 at true color just fine.
I thought I'd tried that. Is it in Win 3.11? I've seen that a lot of the cards do higher res/colours in Win95 etc than Win 3.11.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 8:28 pm
by SA1988
Just use the 1995-dated Trio64 drivers for win3.1x.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 9:12 pm
by teppic
Ok, I'll take a look and report back, thanks.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 9:44 pm
by teppic
I downloaded the only Trio64 drivers I could find, version 1.70.04. The highest it will do is 64k colours at 1024x768 - anything higher than that res is limited to 256 colours.

http://i.imgur.com/qFqdSik.png

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 10:05 pm
by Battler
- teppic: You downloaded Trio64V drivers, you need the Trio64 drivers, not Trio64V.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Tue 18 Jul, 2017 10:19 pm
by teppic
Do you have a link for the right drivers? I can't find anything else.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 6:50 am
by Battler

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 1:46 pm
by teppic
That's the same as the one I had. I found another one dated earlier, and it was the same limitation. I'm not sure there are any 3.1 drivers that support the higher colours/res.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 2:07 pm
by Battler
- teppic: No it's not, the one you had was for Trio64V, this is for Trio64. And I've had both Windows 3.1 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 installed before, running in 1024x768 at true color.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 2:18 pm
by teppic
That driver doesn't run at all (I guess it's for NT). But the 2nd one I downloaded last night was definitely for Trio64 and not Trio64V and it was limited in the same way.

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 2:29 pm
by Battler
You just need to click the zip link instead of the Download button. Anyway, reuploaded the English zip: http://citadel.ringoflightning.net/ENGLISH.ZIP .

And before you say it doesn't support 1024x768 at true color, let me quote from the included OEMSETUP.INF:

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DL1032 = 1:s3trio.drv,   "S3 Trio64 1.70.04 1024x768 16M C LF","100,120,120", 1:vgacolor.2gr, 1:vgalogo.lgo, 1:vdds3764.386, 1:vga_eng.3gr,, 1:vgalogo.rle, D132L
DS1032 = 1:s3trio.drv,   "S3 Trio64 1.70.04 1024x768 16M C SF","100,96,96", 1:vgacolor.2gr, 1:vgalogo.lgo, 1:vdds3764.386, 1:vga_eng.3gr,, 1:vgalogo.rle, D132S

Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2017 2:40 pm
by teppic
I was trying these, not just saying they don't work :p

This driver seems fine, thanks:

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Re: Best option for Windows 3.11 and high res/colours

Posted: Fri 01 Jan, 2021 2:10 pm
by teppic
I'm not sure if there's a regression with this since I last tried. When I installed these drivers on v17 (tried a couple of machine types) on an otherwise totally vanilla set up, opening a DOS session in Windows locks up the emulated system every time. I tried it with and without emm386 loaded. I guess the switch to full screen DOS is causing it since the display otherwise works.