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Snowman
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Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Tue 26 Dec, 2017 9:49 pm

I have some problems with these games:


1. Wing Commander: Armada
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This game refuses to run and it's stuck on initializing EMS. I tried it with and without patch and nothing.


2. Wing Commander: Privateer
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Intro of this game is slowing down when the chase begins. Also during gameplay when I press space to shoot guns there is a big lag. In the game setup if I choose no sound card for FX intro and gameplay are normal. I tested this on 386DX 33 configuration which is recommended for this game. Even on strongest 486 these problems are present.


3. Wings Of Glory
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After configuring sound card I press test music and sound and warning shows up telling me that no sound card is detected. Ignoring this warning I started the game and sound and music works fine. When I go to hangar to start a mission game is stuck on a loading screen forever.


I tested all this games on DOS 6.22 and PCem v13.1

My PC specs: i54460 16GB RAM ASUS RX 470 Win764bit
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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Fri 29 Dec, 2017 1:09 pm

Can someone here test these games and tell me the results? I updated my previous post with configs that I used. If you need links for these games just tell me.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by omarsis81 » Fri 29 Dec, 2017 4:55 pm

I will

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by szadycbr » Fri 29 Dec, 2017 5:20 pm

No luck with Armada, exactely same error/problem , i configured ems and still same, log shows the thing, i dont know is it revelant but it looks like as if its all ok, then there is endless C000:1FA2

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Then i did four times pause emulation and it shows endless onesec between four times "emulation paused" like here

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Hope it help in any way. :(

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Fri 29 Dec, 2017 10:44 pm

Thanks Szadycbr. Now I know it's not just me.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by A. Naim » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:07 am

I don't have those Wing Commanders, but I dohave a Wing Commander II CD - Want me to try that?

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:50 am

Thanks for you offer A. Naim but I already tested it. Wing Commander 1, 2 and Academy works fine. I will test some more games when I have the time. I just recently discovered PCem and it's much better than a DOSBox at least for me.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by omarsis81 » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 3:03 pm

I'm trying to install Wings of Glory and the installer alone is giving me trouble.
VCPI compilant? What is this? Maybe part of problem.
I'm running it from Windows 98 SE DOS, I will try to run from pure DOS later
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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by teppic » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:51 pm

You probably have EMM386 running with NOEMS (or not running at all). Use the RAM option to enable EMS and VCPI.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 5:55 pm

Omarsis81, run the game in DOS 6.22 with EMS and use my 486 DOS config.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by omarsis81 » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 11:11 pm

I disabled sound in the setup just in case and I also got the neverending loading screen in Wings
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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 12:00 pm

Thanks Omarsis81. Another PCem bug confirmed.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by omarsis81 » Tue 02 Jan, 2018 1:19 am

Snowman wrote:Thanks Omarsis81. Another PCem bug confirmed.
The screen freezes with dynamic recompiler both on and off

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Tue 02 Jan, 2018 10:25 am

I know that. Set your sound card in setup and the game will not detect it but it will work. Something is wrong with sound emulation and Privateer have problems with sound lagging.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by SarahWalker » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 8:08 pm

Rev 997 fixes Wings of Glory and Wing Commander III, might also fix Wing Commander: Armada?

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 9:20 pm

SarahWalker wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 8:08 pm
Rev 997 fixes Wings of Glory and Wing Commander III, might also fix Wing Commander: Armada?

Thanks Sarah. Will you release new PCem verison with this fix soon?

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by omarsis81 » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 10:34 pm

Snowman wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 9:20 pm
SarahWalker wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 8:08 pm
Rev 997 fixes Wings of Glory and Wing Commander III, might also fix Wing Commander: Armada?

Thanks Sarah. Will you release new PCem verison with this fix soon?
I don't like to speak for her, but... we never get an update this soon!
You will need to make your own build if you want to test the new fix.
There is a good guide in this forum that would help you doing so

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by basic2004 » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 1:34 pm

PC speaker playing incorrect noises when starting Windwalker yet.
A man kicking from intro screen.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 3:04 pm

omarsis81 wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 10:34 pm
Snowman wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 9:20 pm
SarahWalker wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 8:08 pm
Rev 997 fixes Wings of Glory and Wing Commander III, might also fix Wing Commander: Armada?

Thanks Sarah. Will you release new PCem verison with this fix soon?
I don't like to speak for her, but... we never get an update this soon!
You will need to make your own build if you want to test the new fix.
There is a good guide in this forum that would help you doing so
I can wait it's not a problem.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by szadycbr » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:11 pm

Snowman, You must understand that main releases does not come often, it might be 6 months or more, before v14 will come. Sarah is doing major rewrite of the code , and she does it only in her free time, so do not insist anymore on such things. If You really want , you can compile it Yourself. Like omarsis81 said, there are few guides about how to compile PCem from source in this forum. Dont worry, You can do it, it is quite simple, especially if You are on Linux.
I never thought i will be able to do it, but its not difficult, You just dont know how to do it, that's all.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by SarahWalker » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:30 pm

I'm planning v14 to be a relatively quick release around April time, mainly just bugfixes but with a few new features.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by SarahWalker » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 6:49 pm

Rev 998 fixes Wing Commander : Privateer.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 9:50 pm

szadycbr wrote:
Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:11 pm
Snowman, You must understand that main releases does not come often, it might be 6 months or more, before v14 will come. Sarah is doing major rewrite of the code , and she does it only in her free time, so do not insist anymore on such things. If You really want , you can compile it Yourself. Like omarsis81 said, there are few guides about how to compile PCem from source in this forum. Dont worry, You can do it, it is quite simple, especially if You are on Linux.
I never thought i will be able to do it, but its not difficult, You just dont know how to do it, that's all.
I didn't insist on anything. Read my posts first before you start talking nonsense. I just asked if Sarah will release quick fix because there was two PCem releases in december. I can wait it's not a big deal and yes I don't know how to compile.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by A. Naim » Wed 10 Jan, 2018 10:24 pm

SarahWalker wrote:
Wed 10 Jan, 2018 5:30 pm
I'm planning v14 to be a relatively quick release around April time, mainly just bugfixes but with a few new features.
Cool, thanks.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by szadycbr » Thu 11 Jan, 2018 9:01 am

I m Sorry Snowman, i didnt mean to offend You. Just the line "I can wait it's not a problem" sound a bit, like You are so merciful doing favour to Sarah, so THE KING can wait.
And at least try to compile, everyone will help You, only not me anymore. :evil:

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Thu 11 Jan, 2018 9:53 am

szadycbr wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 9:01 am
I m Sorry Snowman, i didnt mean to offend You. Just the line "I can wait it's not a problem" sound a bit, like You are so merciful doing favour to Sarah, so THE KING can wait.
And at least try to compile, everyone will help You, only not me anymore. :evil:
Why would you even think something like that? It's really not a problem for me to wait cause I have other things to do in real life. Yes I could learn how to compile but I don't have much free time as I would like to have so learning to compile is not on my priority list. I thank you again for testing Armada for me and if you ever need help with some game I will help you.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by szadycbr » Thu 11 Jan, 2018 11:04 am

I will help You to, My appologies, sometimes i am a prick, i do act like a kid sometimes. BTW. if You are on linux, You can learn in 5 minutes.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by Snowman » Thu 11 Jan, 2018 11:42 am

szadycbr wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 11:04 am
I will help You to, My appologies, sometimes i am a prick, i do act like a kid sometimes. BTW. if You are on linux, You can learn in 5 minutes.
It's OK man. BTW I am on Win7SP164bit and I will try to find some time in the future and learn how to compile. For now I will just report bugs that I find so that Sarah can eliminate them and make this great emulator even greater.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by ForBarterOnly » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 8:56 pm

Hello,
I'm also having a new problem with an Origin game.
Have been trying to resolve it myself, but can't find a solution.

Problem occurs with Wing Commander 3 and 4.

I have set a up a configuration with PCem which works fine with all the games I have tried so far. But Wing Commander 3 and 4... well...

The games just won't start.

I have mounted images of the CDs, .ISO and .CUE/.IMG
Change to drive D:
Type WC3/4...
And I get the standard messages: Loading Wing Commander ... etc. Both games however do not load, the last message I see on screen is VESA Driver Present -- SVGA Possible
Then an empty line (where the dots should appear next).

What should follow next is the joystick calibration screen. Then the installation. But it doesn't.
The system seems to freeze, I can't CTRL+ALT+DEL on the keyboard anymore.

I'm using the same BIOS I have on my real DOSBox Award SiS 496/497.
16 MB RAM. CPU shouldn't be the issue.
PCem 13.1 and 12 I have tested (with identical config files)
Changed what I could, set graphics to VGA, IF it was a VESA problem.
Tried all I could think of.
The games still won't start.

I'm using a autoexec/config set which works fine, the one from the real computer.

Same image files work wine with DosBox/SVN (Taewoong).
Still I'd love to resolve the problem.

Maybe somebody could post their working config file here?
Then I could adjust mine to it, and it should hopefully work.

Thanks.

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Re: Problems with some Origin games

Post by SarahWalker » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 10:13 pm

Wing Commander III was fixed back in January. The fix will be in the v14 release.

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