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Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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Hi
I'm having trouble installing NFS Special Edition.
When I run the Dos installer (installd.exe) my system stucks on a black screen.
I am using a Trio64, but I also tried with a VirgeDX and same results.
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Any idea to get working? Maybe a bug in the emulator?
Thanks :D
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Have you tried the original NFS? Only reason why I'm asking is because, although the Special Edition is suppose to support DOS, it was released primarily for Windows 95 support.

Regardless, I tried it on my Windows 98 SE setup, and it works perfectly fine (no DOS lines needed to run it).
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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Xanarki wrote:
Tue 14 Jan, 2020 12:34 am
Have you tried the original NFS? Only reason why I'm asking is because, although the Special Edition is suppose to support DOS, it was released primarily for Windows 95 support.

Regardless, I tried it on my Windows 98 SE setup, and it works perfectly fine (no DOS lines needed to run it).
I now tried the original and it installs fine. But I want the Special Edition anyway. Could you test the Special Edition under DOS with my config above?
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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I installed NFS:SE - installd.exe under plain DOS 6.22 with a Number Nine 9FX (Trio 64) and installs and plays fine

Name: s3_764.bin
Date: 26/12/2013
Size: 32 KB (32,768 bytes)
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SHA-1: 50502df4d16c38608bcaea758791fc3419ee4589
MD5: 09801819cee34e89ea20220b4db3baef
CRC32: 1fbe4a8d
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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Thanks. I was gonna say, I haven't tried anything pre-95 on PCEM yet so couldn't help him out.

So DSN, either use DOS 6.22 (if you're not already), or you have a bad ISO/CD.
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Don't post links to copyrighted material please (admin rules)
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Please don't posting links to copyrighted material per admin rules. It'll get removed as soon as the admin sees it.
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I edited my post. Abandonware (such as this particular release) isn't allowed either? I could understand something still copyright-protected.
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Abandonware is still copyright-protected.

Wait until copyright expires (see https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html ) or the copyright holder puts in into public domain.
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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Alrigh sorry. I for some reason thought R&T owned the copyright to the first game.

TIL.
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Xanarki wrote:
Tue 14 Jan, 2020 5:43 pm
I edited my post. Abandonware (such as this particular release) isn't allowed either? I could understand something still copyright-protected.
Thank you for editing your post. Abandonware is not allowed here as it contains copyrighted material.
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I also went into an hour rabbithole about DCMA and the archival of old software via an internationally recognized library. Talk about a gray area, sheesh.
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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I now tried the Number Nine 9FX and result is same. I also tried loading UniVBE.
Do you think a problem with my configuration?
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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DSN wrote:
Tue 14 Jan, 2020 8:26 pm
I now tried the Number Nine 9FX and result is same. I also tried loading UniVBE.
Do you think a problem with my configuration?
Try running the game with a Pentium class processor, not an Overdrive one.
The game requires a Pentium...
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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omarsis81 wrote:
Tue 14 Jan, 2020 9:44 pm
DSN wrote:
Tue 14 Jan, 2020 8:26 pm
I now tried the Number Nine 9FX and result is same. I also tried loading UniVBE.
Do you think a problem with my configuration?
Try running the game with a Pentium class processor, not an Overdrive one.
The game requires a Pentium...
I switched now to a Intel Advanced/ZP with a Pentium 75mhz but still same result. The system still hangs with the black screen when running the installer.
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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do you have any sound card installed?
When MS-DOS starts I press F5 and nothing is loaded.
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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omarsis81 wrote:
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 12:34 am
do you have any sound card installed?
When MS-DOS starts I press F5 and nothing is loaded. Try the same
The game now installed fine! I found that EMM386 was causing this problem, so I removed it from my config.sys and it now works fine! I switched back to Award SiS 496/497, Pentium Overdrive 83 and Phoenix S3Trio64.
Another question: why EMM386 causes the system to freeze when running the Special Edition installer?
The original NFS worked fine for me with EMM386 loaded but the Special Edition no.
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Re: Need for Speed: Special Edition black screen hang when running installer

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As far as I know is not allowing EMM386 expanded memory driver in order to run The Need for Speed SE the reason why Electronic Arts dropped MS-DOS support completely in later versions of The Need for Speed?
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